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Arrow Camper Guide [Candypowaaah]

Before we start, i want to say that, i only made this guide for make people think of how they can make they teams usefull in clan wars, and yes.. i am not DONE editing etc. so i have typed alot, therefor i will shortly edit everything and make the guide look better then it is atm. it should be perfectly made within few days, so dont whine about it. but if you got questions or suggestions. then i can add it!

[Sorry got alot of homeworks lately, and some kind of family visit... gona make this thread inactive for few days.. i shall soon work on it again]

We all know, about clan wars, and we keep arguing about camper teams, and we still keep trieng to predict how future camper teams would be, but really we all know that only 10% of whole Ninjamanager Community uses ''Chatango'' and maybe another 10% spoke about this over Clan Chat's....

so therefor Candy wants to Reveal all kind of campers to you dear reader


My goal with this thread is to let you know all kind of possibilities of teams you can make that will help you and make your team usefull for your clan wars

and i will be explaining how to beat those camper teams aswell

so lets start.


Camper Teams, What are they like? and how many combinations?

until now we got:
Immunity camper teams:
They are Camper Teams that, goes for Lowering Enemy's Damage output, the way they work are pretty simple, lets say example as, itachi Jouning, that got 1000 nin jutsu, he attacks a danzou kage that has 800s and lvl 20 katsuyu + is high seal, that is 30 nin immunity + 10 + 20 = 60 % ninjutsu immunity... thanks for 60% immunity Itachis 1000 nin would be reduced down to 400 nin, so as you can see, teams that uses immunity are only going for reducing enemys damage output.

Example of teams, that uses immunity:
Katsuyu users:
http://www.ninjamanager.com/teams/3296 [Prefer This one to see]
http://www.ninjamanager.com/teams/3766
http://www.ninjamanager.com/teams/23925
http://www.ninjamanager.com/teams/69748
http://www.ninjamanager.com/teams/89182

Nin-Kame users :
http://www.ninjamanager.com/teams/78017
http://www.ninjamanager.com/teams/14227 [Prefer This one to see]

The summons




So they weakness are how to beat immunity team?, well a immunity team, stacks up Immunity Lws, there for they own ''Damage Out Put'' isn't that high as other teams, so if you attack them with Pure Attack, and use Manda or Gamaken summon then it should be easy to beat them, since they can't reduce your attack damage but only tai and nin

Attack Campers : Attack Campers , are people, that tries to AVOID immunity, since immunity doesn't effect attack, then people doesn't need to lvl they ninjas anylonger, because lvlling them only brings stats, and since that gets reduced by immunity, then only way to go is lvl your Attack Summon

Examples of Attack Summons
http://www.ninjamanager.com/teams/46523
http://www.ninjamanager.com/teams/12277
http://www.ninjamanager.com/teams/7278 [Prefer This one to see]
http://www.ninjamanager.com/teams/27641
http://www.ninjamanager.com/teams/128939

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Weakness are : well people prefer to use manda, because 4 attack is much and thats the only stat they need, but manda got a side effect, its reduce team stamina and resist, means people can nuke them down with elemental adv, and the manda team can't misslot very well because if you misslot, a ninja. then you need 200 stam. so a lvl 50 manda that gives -100 stam wouldn't be nice to have, therefor they weakness are disadv. *this can actually also be an advange, people would challange manda campers more then others, because they sometimes believe they can beat it and gain alot of exp, this way those that fails on killing feeds the manda summon and helps them lvlling the manda* [campers doesnt get alot of challanges but manda's does]


Exp Campers : they are People that loves to have *High Team Exp* they can be strong by they lvl but Immunity or Attack Teams should easily be avaible of beating them, anyway mostly Exp Campers doesnt use AA, because they only want to fight those they are 100% sure about a win situation. so they can win and gain exp

Example of teams
http://www.ninjamanager.com/teams/11661 i will only link this one cuz its best, as you see Rank 2nd! and if you go over statistic it only have lost 25 fights. and got 99% win ratio

Summons: Exp Camper Teams, doesnt got a ''summon'' its just what you like to use. i would myself use pakkun because it could be fun to have 100% increased exp or more since i would camp with it and this way lvl faster up and gain faster exp *This is my suggestion* you can still use manda gobi or any other kind of summon no one is after you :)


Weakness as said, they got no chance againts immunity or attack *will skip this part fast* since exp campers are only for team exp ranking and for fun *usually picked by people that, got bored of game and only wants they team in top 10*
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Old 04-16-2011, 10:25 AM   #2
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Crit Camper Teams
all Low Seal Ninjas, got a crit chance based on they seal from 1-9. and they also got a crit dmg 25% no matter which seal it is *1-9* [if more, then no crit]
when a lucky Low sealler ninja, scores a crit , then his taijutsu increases by 25% example Rock lee that has 1000 tai. scores a crit, then his tai is 1250.
so by using. Summons that would increase your Crit Chance and Crit Dmg %, you could hit way more.. if we now said the same rock with with 1000 tai.. and 50% crit dmg, then it would have 1500 tai if it scored a critical dmg.

You Seriusly Hate low seallers? and prefer High Seallers? and you just love this crit stuff? don't worry, there are summons that also gives Crit Chance, therefor HS teams can also get effected by crit

those camper teams are very new to the game and they should have a really good Dmg Scale, and easily kill those manda teams.
Example of Teams
http://www.ninjamanager.com/teams/20408 [Prefer to see this one]
http://www.ninjamanager.com/teams/16962


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As Said Eairlier i am not DONE editing, i will post pictures and make it easier to read etc. So hang on!
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To Do List ''So people can see upcoming updates''

* Atm, i am taking Screenshots of all summons for make it, more Picture Based so even the most new players can understand perfectly everything

* i still have to fix all kind of Camper teams Still needing to add, Lvl5 death, Stat based Campers , etc etc

* i will have to fix the thread, to be more ''short and correct''

* and look at suggestions + re-re-re-re-re-re-read everything for see if i still miss something :)

*Clan Wars ''Ranks'' which ranks can you camp at and how

* Make a Credit List for those helpers \o/
* Whine Corner *Immunity is Pedobear raping all :/ * etc etc :D

* gotta have a look on dear FH's words :) i answered some in ''[]''
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1) All ninjas get base crit dmg of 25% regardless of seal. The game interface just doesn't show it unless you also have crit chance.

2) Shichibi is not a viable camping summon. Gamahiro is unproven and very likely weaker than the other two crit summon for crit camping, possibly something you want to note.

3) LS tai does not "easily" beat Manda teams, LS tai actually need a fairly high level just to break even with Manda teams. Could be interesting to see some basic scenarios and associated lvs LS tai need.

[i so far only typed it.. think like some builders are building a house.. they first make the roots of everything... plans etc.. and then build it.. i did the same]

4) Manda team also use a lot of immunity. [combining strategies will be made later on *i promise this*

5) You mention weaknesses but you don't really talk much about strengths of each team. [as said eairlier i will describe better later on D: ]

6) A table showing which team type is strong against which other one could help make your point about the relative strengths of each team type. [yeah i was thinking like .. manda owns immunity..immunity owns crit.. crit owns manda its like a circel]

7) If you going to include Exp Camping as a type, you should include LS nin/SD, even though its pretty much defunct at this point. [stats based stamina based lvl 5 death summons inc]
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Old 04-16-2011, 11:47 AM   #5
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You forgot to mention bronze campers, gold campers. You also forgot to mention that immunity rapes everyone at the moment, even Manda. Honestly, I don't find this very useful.
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Old 04-16-2011, 12:51 PM   #6
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Don't forget to point out that, at this point of the game, any camping team without at least an FNJ probably wouldn't stand a chance against the 2nd tier campers (let alone the top tiers) unless they premium like hell (and would still be overtaken eventually). 3 FNGs + 2 FNJ seem to be the minimum requirements to have a shot at being a decent camper (with 2 Hidans in the last 2 slots I guess... stupid immunity =\ )
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they are People that loves to have *High Team Exp* they can be strong by they lvl but Immunity or Attack Teams should easily be avaible of beating them, anyway mostly Exp Campers doesnt use AA, because they only want to fight those they are 100% sure about a win situation. so they can win and gain exp

Example of teams
http://www.ninjamanager.com/teams/11661 i will only link this one cuz its best, as you see Rank 2nd! and if you go over statistic it only have lost 25 fights. and got 99% win ratio

Summons: Exp Camper Teams, doesnt got a ''summon'' its just what you like to use.

Weakness as said, they got no chance againts immunity or attack *will skip this part fast* since exp campers are only for team exp ranking and for fun *usually picked by people that, got bored of game and only wants they team in top 10*
best!? (can't imagine it)

im not Camper... im (Red Fox) Rank Holder, this is an Original style,
btw im not use C+ and dunno what should i do with the money

today im still in 2nd seat from Elite 4, but...
soon that team will drop from 2nd to 3rd seat
and... the other weakness is... cant get the Kage title,
very slow leveling, only can use 1 FN and hunt Beginner LW (never beat the game)
ps. im never use premium

ps. my english not good, and nice thread candy'
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Hahahahaha, Exp Camper, I love the description.


I a few correction and suggestion which you can take or not,

1) All ninjas get base crit dmg of 25% regardless of seal. The game interface just doesn't show it unless you also have crit chance.

2) Shichibi is not a viable camping summon. Gamahiro is unproven and very likely weaker than the other two crit summon for crit camping, possibly something you want to note.

3) LS tai does not "easily" beat Manda teams, LS tai actually need a fairly high level just to break even with Manda teams. Could be interesting to see some basic scenarios and associated lvs LS tai need.

4) Manda team also use a lot of immunity.

5) You mention weaknesses but you don't really talk much about strengths of each team.

6) A table showing which team type is strong against which other one could help make your point about the relative strengths of each team type.

7) If you going to include Exp Camping as a type, you should include LS nin/SD, even though its pretty much defunct at this point.
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Might want to include this http://www.ninjamanager.com/teams/70797 as a exp camper
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best!? (can't imagine it)

im not Camper... im (Red Fox) Rank Holder, this is an Original style,
btw im not use C+ and dunno what should i do with the money

today im still in 2nd seat from Elite 4, but...
soon that team will drop from 2nd to 3rd seat
and... the other weakness is... cant get the Kage title,
very slow leveling, only can use 1 FN and hunt Beginner LW (never beat the game)
ps. im never use premium

ps. my english not good, and nice thread candy'
your a Red Fox Rank Holder = Your Camper D:
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here its the best gold camper
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And again sorry but this isnt a POST MY TEAM thread..

i take againts suggestion or missing stuffs...

i shall post the teams when i need them
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Thats not a camp team
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Thats not a camp team
its still an example of how he would build his team + .. its not the prefered one... anyway \o/
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its still an example of how he would build his team + .. its not the prefered one... anyway \o/
you can use thisone for critical team example
http://www.ninjamanager.com/teams/45841
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http://www.ninjamanager.com/teams/62015
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you can use thisone for critical team example
http://www.ninjamanager.com/teams/45841
and this as attack/immunity u.u
http://www.ninjamanager.com/teams/62015
teams are ''fail'' atm for people can look at them as examples.. can or might add them up later when they are fine campers... or else it wouldnt fit the guide.. i will soon work on my to do list.. finally over the easter vacation
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Old 04-25-2011, 06:36 PM   #17
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Best camping guide out there! great work!
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teams are ''fail'' atm for people can look at them as examples.. can or might add them up later when they are fine campers... or else it wouldnt fit the guide.. i will soon work on my to do list.. finally over the easter vacation
u have to explain how to do camper teams not to scare them with over 80 ninjas
and low level ninjas doesn't mean that the team is a "fail".
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i agree with blaaster , its not cause your team is in full making ( low lvled) that its not a camper team , since its obvious it ll be with the setup they are going for v-v
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Old 03-25-2012, 06:03 AM   #20
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Yea man don't hate on future team campers that can surpass even spar! Though if that ever happened I hope the team doesn't end up on the op clans xD
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