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View Poll Results: What Forbidden Summons skins would you prefer? (View the first post for examples.)
The "shiny" FS skins. 6 22.22%
The "animated" FS skins. 7 25.93%
I would like to have both options; two sets of FS skins. 14 51.85%
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Old 03-28-2013, 03:12 AM   #1
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Exclamation FS - Forbidden Summons ("Alternative Solutions")

I am currently working on the final edition and it can be viewed here:

Forbidden Summons [NOT complete, 10/51]:

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Gamatatsu

Gamakichi

Baby Slug

Small Snake

Spider

Giant Snake

Three-headed Snake

Demolisher Toad

Piranha

Kamatari

Mechanical Bird

Ninja Dogs

Nin-Kame

Pakkun

Umibouzu

Hawk

Giant Rhino

Enma

Reibi

Giant Dogs

Ichibi

Conch King

Nibi

Tonton

Giant Centipede

Sanbi

Giant Chameleon

Yonbi

Giant Crustacean

Gobi

Katsuyu

Manda

Gamabunta

Giant Panda

Baku

Ibuse

Rashoumon

Spirit Dragon

Rokubi

Giant Ox

Shichibi

Shinigami

Hachibi

Fukasaku

Shima

Gamaken

Gamahiro

Drill-Beaked Bird

Lesser Kyuubi

Gedou Mazou

Juubi


Extremely Short Version:
The basic idea:
It be will nothing more than a different skin for your summon.


Short version:
The basic idea:
FS skins for all summons unlocks after completing Forbidden Mode.
FS skins can be turned off by the player among the account settings.
If not turned off so will all summons owned/bought by the player display the FS skin by default.
The stats, ryo cost and chakra will remain unchanged.
The ranks needed to buy summons will remain.



Forbidden Summons

The Forbidden Summons will not be stronger than other summons.
They will be like their “normal” counterparts in regards of stats and hence only act like an exclusive skin. The stats, the chakra, the ryo cost and the rank as when you can buy the summon will stay the same.
The Forbidden Summons will act like exclusive skins for those who have completed Forbidden Mode.

Who would bother with Forbidden when the FS is not stronger than normal summons?
Anyone who is a collector would bother with it so that no matter what summon they decide to use it will have that beautiful golden frame. It is also a more “steady” proof of having cleared the Forbidden mode.
Who would not like to show off with six golden frames instead of five? Shame on you for asking!

Well then, how would I get a Forbidden Summon?
It is simple. Beat the final boss of the Forbidden Mode.
After that so will your current summon change skin to its Forbidden counter-part. Beating the boss will also unlock a new setting on your Ninja manager account. It will be found at "configurations" (where you still can find the auto-accept function), if this idea gets implemented.
Your account will use the Forbidden Summons setting by default.
If you do not want to have the Forbidden Summons skin then simply change the setting and save. This can be changed back at any time.

Spoiler:
Example of how it possibly/maybe/perhaps could look like:




What about the players that have already cleared the Forbidden mode?
They will hopefully be given the Forbidden Summons setting right away if this idea gets implemented as the function will show up on all accounts that have beaten the final boss of the Forbidden Mode.


The Forbidden Summon Skins
So, I took the summon template and made a forbidden template out of it by counting the pixels and colors made using the forbidden ninjas templates while comparing to the normal ninjas template.
I might make a thread for my ninjas and summons later and add template for FS and PSD-files along with new tutorials.

Credit goes to Yaseen16 for the summons template and the colors I used from the FNs templates.


Any ideas or suggestions are welcome and appreciated.
If something sounds confusing then please notify me about it! :)
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Old 03-28-2013, 03:35 AM   #2
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Great Idea I like it :)
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Old 03-28-2013, 03:49 AM   #3
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Thank you! :)
Sadly I just found a post somewhere that said FS definitely not will be implemented.. Thought my thorough search yesterday was enough. :/ Hopefully the idea of not messing with stats and chakra will improve the outlook on it.
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Old 03-28-2013, 08:18 AM   #4
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The main issue with FS is that they can't come with you because then you'd have extreme low rank campers able to use the best of the best summons. And since summons are the most important part of the team they can't really be even more powerful than existing summon, thus they were added as the frog summons/DBB for everyone instead to even out the choices of high end summons instead of just SD for LS


But sure... Adding that gold trim thingy (or maybe making animated summon cards?) to existing summons through a special link could be done I guess.. Link needed in case people don't like the new animated version ;>

Maybe just an unlock rather than paying for it to make it FN like..


Just a simple gold trim shouldn't be that hard to code in... if (FM == done) show gold version :>
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:03 AM   #5
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What about a boost of 0.5 to Forbidden summons over normal summons?
Or maybe no boost at all, i'd still go over Forbidden just to get one of them Shiny Summons :3

But anyways its a +1 from me :)
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:39 PM   #6
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Well, finally we get a well considered FS idea. Can't say I don't like it, and being a collector I'd love to fill up my last not shining slot.
If stats and chakra cost would stay the same I see no problems, but as mentioned by Aeno they should be obtainable on their respective crystals/ranks to avoid imbalance.
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Old 03-28-2013, 01:11 PM   #7
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nice idea :)
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Old 03-28-2013, 03:34 PM   #8
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The main issue with FS is that they can't come with you because then you'd have extreme low rank campers able to use the best of the best summons. And since summons are the most important part of the team they can't really be even more powerful than existing summon, thus they were added as the frog summons/DBB for everyone instead to even out the choices of high end summons instead of just SD for LS


But sure... Adding that gold trim thingy (or maybe making animated summon cards?) to existing summons through a special link could be done I guess.. Link needed in case people don't like the new animated version ;>

Maybe just an unlock rather than paying for it to make it FN like..


Just a simple gold trim shouldn't be that hard to code in... if (FM == done) show gold version :>
Yes, actual FS would complicate things but want I want in the game is the gold frame and there is a few ways to do that. I believe it is much less work than actual FS with high stats and chakra.

Then unlocking it at Forbidden rather than pay for it? :)
And as for the ranks/crystals there should be no problem if they work as with the normal summons.
Meaning that if it is a summon that normally can be obtained at gold then it can not be used until gold. That could work. =)
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Old 03-28-2013, 08:59 PM   #9
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FS sounds awesome to me.
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:15 PM   #10
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I like it too :)


I'm just guessing that udon has no time to make it (Or to lazy xD)
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Old 03-29-2013, 05:26 AM   #11
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I just wants the shiny. No special stats or anything, or getting earlier, just the shiny.
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Old 04-12-2013, 03:55 AM   #12
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Spoiler:
"Possessed Kyuubi"



I tried to make a FS with animation different to the shine animation I made previously. This is a new summon which would need to have a "normal" summon created first though.

I will, later today, revise the first post by following some of the suggestions so far. After that so will my quest of re-creating each and every summon as a FS begin.

The basic idea is now: FS skins for all summons unlocks after completing Forbidden Mode, this option can be turned off by the player among the account settings otherwise so will all summons owned/bought by the player display the FS skin by default.

Wish me good luck. 8)
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Hmm quick idea why not do some sort of trade shop for a FNS
Instead of getting to forbidden to get one, which will piss off quite a few people that have already competed it.
Why not a trade (Yopu have already mentioned this) but further in depth:

3 FNG+1000 Ryo = 1FNS
2 FNJ + 500 Ryo = 1FNS
1 FNK = 1FNS

Could work..i think
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Old 04-12-2013, 02:22 PM   #14
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You would not get just one.. o_o After completing Forbidden Mode so will, hence forth after that, all summons you buy have the FS skin. That was my thought any way. ^^' Though, when re-running you have to have the right rank for the summon you want though.

Edit: Sorry if the old text in the first post is confusing you. Will fix it when I get home to my other computer later so that I can edit it properly. The blue text at the top is the current idea, though not fully explained yet. :)
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Basically, forbidden summon as an optional cosmetic skin for normal summons instead of new summons which would probably end up being annoyingly OP.

I like the "shiny" idea more than the FNK-style.
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Old 04-12-2013, 05:08 PM   #16
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Yes, basically. :)
I am considering making two sets: one shiny and one animated. But we'll see.
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:49 PM   #17
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Sorry about the double-post but I am hoping to get more people to vote..
Depending on the results so may I give up the animated set.


Starting 13 May 2013 so will I add the FS skins to my ninja cards post instead:
Yaana's Ninja- and Summon Cards

The reason is to keep the first post clean, easy to understand and focus more on the idea to get opinions rather than the cards (exception being the poll).

Please vote! <3
Personally I think the shiny set is better since the Forbidden Ninjas do not use anything similar hence I will complete the shiny set first but it might be two sets if that gets more popular of the voting opinions.
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:57 PM   #18
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Well, let see:

FNG - 2 pics
FNJ - Shiny
FNK - Animation

If the importance of FNS is considered, it deserves an animation like FNK. However, many of the summons in game got too little screen time for good animations so I would say having a shiny version is a better idea.
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:04 PM   #19
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Yes, the FNJ got shiny but a different kind. =) Mine is more like "reflective".
Yes, that is why I considered animation but also found some difficulties with it.

Thank you for the input. :P
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Old 05-13-2013, 06:54 PM   #20
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I like this idea, but I have a suggestion if it has not been said already. Whatever summon that you use to beat Forbidden mode gets this skin set and carries over with your team as proof of beating forbidden mode with that summon.
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