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Old 08-05-2016, 04:19 PM   #1
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* Lowered some starter genjutsu costs a bit, because you now require the genjutsu cost as Gen on user to cast it. So if a genjutsu costs 50 gen. The ninja casting it needs at least 50 gen.
* Added a LW to ryuichi cave: Demonic Flute. Testing some genjutsu activations on it.
* Added so you get 1 bonus seal change when buying ninja specific to your village.
* Your starter ninja starts with 2 seal changes.
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Old 08-05-2016, 09:05 PM   #2
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I'm gonna suggest some boosts/nerfs:
Nagato (Disabled Saviour): +0.2 tai/level=>0.7 tai/level; +0.2 stamina/level=>+1.2 stamina/level; double the level of starting stamina:10=>20 (too low stamina, way too high chakra cost and price; boosting him will make more people choose him than the obvious better pair jira/tsu)
Hiruko : Increase starting stamina and bukijutsu by 2: =>20; add +0.1 on nin and buki/level=> +5.5 nin/level;+1.5 buki/level (he seems way to fragile for the cost and chakra)
Shima: +1nin/level=>+7 nin/level; (haven't unlocked her old geezer yet, but if he's the same as Shima only that he increases ninjutsu, then he should also give +1 tai/level) (most people prefer Gamaken rather than her, she needs just a little bit more damage)
Giant Rinho: make his base taijutsu 10, he's basically a copy of gyuki that costs more chakra & money; i get that he gives critical chance instead of crit.damage, but he's still not worth it & Gyuki is a more viable option atm
Moryo: decrease his chakra cost to 32/30, he's a little bit too costly and has very low attack value; i know he's good, he got good genjutsu gain and imm, but Panda which has the same cost is more useful)
Hiruko (jounin): +0.5 elem./level=>+2.5 elem./level;+0.2 buki/level=>1.7 buki/level (despite being a bingo book jounin, he's way worse than any akatsuki jounin)

Also, would love to have the evolution chamber being enabled, along with more unlockable ninjas, especially bingo book ones (add more jounin/kages) :D
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Old 08-06-2016, 12:31 PM   #3
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* Lowered Tai/Nin immunity on Spawn of hatred mission from 100% to 80%, increased HP a bit.
* Added LW to anbu hideout area.
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Old 08-06-2016, 12:34 PM   #4
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sahed: Thanks, i will read have that feedback in mind when re-balancing, they are currently getting STA buffs in general.
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Old 08-08-2016, 05:28 PM   #5
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* Added many kages (akatsuki, hokages, late game villains, naruto kyuubis). Check Bingo Book and village shop.
* Adjusted some existing kages, mainly the village kages.
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Old 08-09-2016, 12:51 PM   #6
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* Adjusted exp gaining formula in arena. In short: more exp, easier to power level new ninjas.

Adds an "killing streak ending bonus" when taking down a ninja that defeated several in a row.
Adds bonus exp if defeating higher level ninjas. The lower you are the more you get.
Adds slight base exp bonus depending on the levels of the ninjas facing each other.
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Old 08-09-2016, 03:45 PM   #7
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Now all we really need is the evolution chamber being enabled and more jounin/genin ninjas in the bingo book. Also, would be nice if we can know on which streak is the player we want to battle.
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:44 PM   #8
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streak is for every battle. not the team win so if genin 1 defeats 2 ninjas then opponent defeats genin1 he has bonus exp.. we can chat at ninjamanager.chatango.com
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Old 08-10-2016, 02:22 PM   #9
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* All recruited ninjas start with 1 bonus seal changes (previously 0)
* All recruited ninjas from your home village start with 2 bonus seal changes (prev 1)
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Old 08-10-2016, 09:47 PM   #10
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Now all we really need is the evolution chamber being enabled and more jounin/genin ninjas in the bingo book. Also, would be nice if we can know on which streak is the player we want to battle.
I think the Genins/Jounins need to be rebalanced before putting more of them in.
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Old 08-18-2016, 03:50 AM   #11
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So far, I noticed the bonus points when u choose your starter disappear when u evolve it, the +10 bp making it for the loss. This is why it doesn't get stronger. Now, as it says: "Its support stats are heavily increased, while it's main core stat receives a slight increase in growth" in the Evolution Chamber, some ninjas didn't recieve any bonus, and other actually got worse growth stats.
Anyways, as I'm using Nagato (his growth rate remained completly the same, except he costs 8 chakra now v.v) I suggest the following: aside from the +0.5 in sta, el, gen; He should get +0.2 in tai (we saw him fighting some chuunin/jounin in the forest during his flashbacks in his conversation with Naruto) and +0.5-0.6 in buki (he uses black rods after all, or Gedou Mazou, stuff....anyways 0.2 buki/level seems like a joke). So +1.2 tai +4 nin +0.6/0.7 buki +1.5 sta +1.5 gen +2 element should be his grow stats after Evo. For example Sasuke Evo has +1.5 tai +3 nin +1 buki =5.5 but the fact that bothers me is that he didn't get anything in buki grow, even tho we know in Shippuden he uses the Kusanagi Sword. So he should get +0.7/0.8 in buki too, since he's a sword specialist. Also I don't get while Evo Sasuke costs 14 chakra and Nagato only 8. Just make them all cost the same amount of chakra, like 10 Just my 2 cents :D
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Old 08-18-2016, 07:36 AM   #12
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sahed:
* Points points from start should not disappear.
* No one should get worse growth, if you see point out please. Copy paste errors possible.
* I can't just make Nagato way better than everyone else. The others are now on his level. And 1 buki is not equal to 1 tai. Are you not bothered that Nagato is equally strong as for example Ino? Should I remove Nagato as starter genin because he *is* considered stronger for the sake of staying true to the series?
* Fixed Sasuke and Tenten still costing 14 chakra.
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Old 08-18-2016, 09:29 AM   #13
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I don't know if removing him is a bad idea, but still the slightlest boost to tai/buki would be appreciated. For example I evolved him thinking (due to the description) that he would get a small boost in attack, along with his support stats increased. Even +0.2/0.3 in buki would be good. Let's compare Evo Nagato (http://prnt.sc/c77uxi) with Sasuke (http://prnt.sc/c77qji). Nagato has 5 (tai+nin), Sasuke has 4.5 This is the only advantage Nagato has (2,5 dmg compared to 2,25). But Sasuke has 1 buki, Nagato has 0.2 (0.33 dmg compared with 0.066). Already Sasuke has 2,58 and Nagato 2,56. So they're kinda equal in attack force, Sasuke having a slight edge. But Sasuke gets 1,7 sta/level, 1.8 gen and 2 element, while actual Nagato (I guess he's not yet fixed, you told me yday that you'll boost his stamina, el, gen with 0.5 per level and he's still the same) has 1,1, 1.5 Even with the boost (0.5 in all), he'll have -0.2 sta and -0.3 gen, which makes Sasuke better.

As I said, I would preffer a boost in Nagato's buki, like 0.2-0.3 to make him a choice equal to Sasuke here. And I think every single character should get a small boost in tai, nin or buki when he evolves no matter the character, along with the +0.5 in sta/el/gen.

Oh, and at this moment, Sasuke still costs 14 chakra.

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Old 08-18-2016, 04:28 PM   #14
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* Updated most ninjas (except kages who are already "done") with boosted support stats (sta ele gen) and some adjusted core stats (tai buki nin).
* Added some more summons, nerfed some existing ones (Satori, Statue) and reduced cost of some (Bijuu).
* Added some village specific ninjas (Maki, Gari, Pakura, Gaara 350/jounin, Gengetsu, Mu, Killer B, Blue B etc). They'll probably be village missions later on.
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Old 08-20-2016, 07:00 PM   #15
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hey udon this beta will be closed beta or open mean will we go on journey or start from begining
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Old 08-20-2016, 07:56 PM   #16
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everyone will be starting over after the beta ends
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Old 08-21-2016, 12:02 PM   #17
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So far, I noticed the bonus points when u choose your starter disappear when u evolve it, the +10 bp making it for the loss. This is why it doesn't get stronger. Now, as it says: "Its support stats are heavily increased, while it's main core stat receives a slight increase in growth" in the Evolution Chamber, some ninjas didn't recieve any bonus, and other actually got worse growth stats.
Anyways, as I'm using Nagato (his growth rate remained completly the same, except he costs 8 chakra now v.v) I suggest the following: aside from the +0.5 in sta, el, gen; He should get +0.2 in tai (we saw him fighting some chuunin/jounin in the forest during his flashbacks in his conversation with Naruto) and +0.5-0.6 in buki (he uses black rods after all, or Gedou Mazou, stuff....anyways 0.2 buki/level seems like a joke). So +1.2 tai +4 nin +0.6/0.7 buki +1.5 sta +1.5 gen +2 element should be his grow stats after Evo. For example Sasuke Evo has +1.5 tai +3 nin +1 buki =5.5 but the fact that bothers me is that he didn't get anything in buki grow, even tho we know in Shippuden he uses the Kusanagi Sword. So he should get +0.7/0.8 in buki too, since he's a sword specialist. Also I don't get while Evo Sasuke costs 14 chakra and Nagato only 8. Just make them all cost the same amount of chakra, like 10 Just my 2 cents :D
Balance wise, the ninjas that are suffering the most right now are the ones that are relying on Genjutsu in some way. The reason is that there are not enough items that can make use of it effectively and the consumption rate for many of the abilities are too high. By comparison, Buki seems much more effective at the moment. That might change with future legendary weapon changes.

Other places that need balance are the 350 Genin. There either needs to be more or others need to be redistributed to other areas. There isn't much of a realistic choice for most villages except Berserk Naruto.
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Old 08-22-2016, 12:42 PM   #18
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Some remarks on Itachi. I have the jounin one and the only one MS ability he has is Tsukuyomi.
I hope the kage Itachi got Tsukyomi (as he has a Tsukuyomi picture), Amaterasu, Susanoo, Izanami. :D
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Old 08-22-2016, 04:29 PM   #19
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* Added abilities for Akatsuki + Sannins + Haku.
* Sell value for abilities is now 100% because we are adding the unique ones. So if it bugs out, just sell them and re-buy.

Big thanks to Azreal for putting huge amount of work into making these unique, with good accurate names! There's more coming soon. I nerfed some because they looked too strong, so blame me for that ;)
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Old 08-26-2016, 06:09 PM   #20
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* Changed Buki Recovery so it's no recovering based on total missing bukijutsu, but rather recovering based on buki used this turn. (still wrong in log though). This makes bukijutsu recovery a bit underpowered right now.
* World map enemies now have abilities equipped! This makes things a bit more difficult. It will also makes things a bit more interesting and unique because of them proccing genjutsus.
Settings are currently:
Beginner: 400 ability equipped, only genjutsu active, no stat items.
Easy: same. Undecided when to activate 800 etc.

You can see what items a world map ninja has equipped by looking to the right of it's big card in battle.
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