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Old 01-17-2011, 05:43 PM   #21
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Sasori Pwns everyone
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Old 01-17-2011, 07:36 PM   #22
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seems like there are lots of anime talk, not exactly balance..

i dont think that Ino's 800 is OP.. it has high AV but how come not that many is using Ino? i mean, it is strong, but OP means overpowering right, that it is being abused or something.. that is just my thoughts since nobody is defending Ino.. :P
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Old 01-18-2011, 02:07 AM   #23
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In the anime Sasuke is still a brat that got almost beaten by Deidara, half dead Itachi and
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Killer Bee's Tentacle.

So nope, he is not strong.
deidara is suicide to kill sasuke.Sasuke is 10 times stronger than daidara.

and sasuke is not dead

I do not understand is that most rotten are the strongest in this game.And well almost everything.
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Old 01-18-2011, 02:40 AM   #24
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At least nerf Itachi, Chiyo and Oro. And boost Sasuke Temari and Shino
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Old 01-18-2011, 03:15 AM   #25
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At least nerf Itachi, Chiyo and Oro. And boost Sasuke Temari and Shino
Wow why don't they Nerf Hidan instead ?And why the heck Chiyo, there is only 1 Chiyo in the Hole game no fng no fnj no fnk no Gegnin or Jounin Chiyo so No Nerf and you say "some FN's".
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Old 01-18-2011, 03:20 AM   #26
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cus he FNs should really be equal in AV but we can nerf/boost chars that need it
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:09 AM   #27
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DarkWolf STFU alredy.
NO NINJA NEEDS A FU*KING NERF
@Mongolsfamous don't TRIPLE post -_- there's the EDIT button ya know?
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Old 01-18-2011, 11:14 AM   #28
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Only Itachi, but Chiyo could be more balanced too
About Hidan and Danzou I think we should change immunity system( cap o something)
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Old 01-18-2011, 03:37 PM   #29
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Look who's the guy having trouble in event?
It's Itachi!
His 400 is slightly OP but his 50 and 200 makes up for it. Ditto. Kankuro/Kiba would make things a lot easier >.<
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Old 01-19-2011, 01:08 AM   #30
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I was on game guide and saw KB's 400 was only worth 8 AV and Itachi's 26. You cant say its balanced. And Sasuke's 800 only 19, a 400 WAY stronger than a 800 isnt balanced at all. And i remade the prst post and put out the ones who dont really need boost/nerf and i just let the serious cases.

Oh and Xero just return play pokemon like the other 5 yo kids and stop saying characters dont need nerf just cus you have them.
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Old 01-19-2011, 11:20 AM   #31
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I think some FNs abilities are too strong compared to others, so ill say who needs boost.

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Boost :

Sasuke
jiraiya
Shino
Temari
Asuma
Kisame
Killer Bee (400)
Neji
Pain
Kakuzu
Sakumo

nerf :

orochimaru
Itachi
Chiyo
Ino


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I was on game guide and saw KB's 400 was only worth 8 AV and Itachi's 26. You cant say its balanced.
I'm pretty sure the dude just goes to the AV guide and starts making calculations. He doesn't even consider individual ninjas S/W or uses and just bases his opinions on sheer numbers without even trying to actually use them in setups that can actually take advantage of their strengths.


I think this shows how serious he can rely on DW for nerfing and boosting suggestions
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Old 01-19-2011, 11:51 AM   #32
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Best edit message ever.



I've said it before and will apparently have to say it again: Attack value charts are NOT accurate!
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Old 01-19-2011, 01:46 PM   #33
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For the topic titled “Boosts and nerf we need”, I find most boosts and nerfs proposed here completely unnecessary. (In fact, the only boost listed here I fully agree with is that Temari’s 800 needs a boost.)
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:18 PM   #34
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Down with Aenonar the tyrant!
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:27 PM   #35
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Hahaha this sound like you were some old man complaining of rascals
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Old 01-19-2011, 06:29 PM   #37
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IMPORTANT! READ THIS FIRST!
Do not use this guide until after you have beaten Beginner at least once or have some basic understanding of the game's mechanics. A lot of advance game mechanics goes into the values presented in this guide and can be difficult for newbies to understand. I strongly advice you to get some in-game experience first before reading further.

Maybe he missed this on the progression guide? You could add it to the AV one too =p
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:20 PM   #38
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so if moegi fights agains itachi he will say , no wait itachi ur 400 is too OP dont use it cause my 400 sucks ??
now for real almost every nin in the game has at least 2 versions , lets say u change sasuke abilities to mach itachis 400 soo now u have a ´´balanced´´ FNG , but did u think that the starter genin will change too ?? and the TN ?? and the 350 ??
dont say that some one needs bost or nerf simply cause his FNG isnt as strong as itachis
the FN are special version of the normal ninjas , yeah sure the normal itachis is strong but he has a high chakra consumption and a high price and sasuke cs 2 is weaker cause he cost less and have less chakra consumption, in FN version that dosnt count cause every one has the same stats grow and same chakra consumption , before we going sayin he need a boost he needs a nerf think about this FN are special version of the normal nin , there is a reason why that nin is stronger than the other but in FN version u cant really see that cause they are more balanced
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:58 PM   #39
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so if moegi fights agains itachi he will say , no wait itachi ur 400 is too OP dont use it cause my 400 sucks ??
now for real almost every nin in the game has at least 2 versions , lets say u change sasuke abilities to mach itachis 400 soo now u have a ´´balanced´´ FNG , but did u think that the starter genin will change too ?? and the TN ?? and the 350 ??
dont say that some one needs bost or nerf simply cause his FNG isnt as strong as itachis
the FN are special version of the normal ninjas , yeah sure the normal itachis is strong but he has a high chakra consumption and a high price and sasuke cs 2 is weaker cause he cost less and have less chakra consumption, in FN version that dosnt count cause every one has the same stats grow and same chakra consumption , before we going sayin he need a boost he needs a nerf think about this FN are special version of the normal nin , there is a reason why that nin is stronger than the other but in FN version u cant really see that cause they are more balanced
Yeah but if they can everybody would only take FNs so whats the point to have some stronger than others, and im not only looking at the attack value, it was just cus 18 AV difference is a too big difference, Killer Bee's 400 isnt worth any other 400 cus its totally useless for high seal. And even if it changes the other versions, there shouldnt be abilities way stronger than others cus everybody will take that char, it sucks to see almost everybody as the same characters, i think all of 1 chars abilities combined should be as strong as an other char's. That way, people will only choose characters they like, not just characters with good abilities. And if we boost Sasuke's 800 for exemple, even his other versions need boost so its a good idea. If you dont wanna do a big balance, at least boost chars that really need it ( Shino, Sasuke, Temari, Killer Bee, Kakuzu )
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Old 01-20-2011, 08:21 AM   #40
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Killer Bee's 400 isnt worth any other 400 cus its totally useless for high seal.
WTF? It's useless because it is useless for HS? Where does that logic come from? Definitely not your brain...

1) KillerBee isn't meant to be HS. He is like the best LS high tai.

2) If you went HS with him, it will most likely be for the purpose of camping. You only use 800s when you camp (on RF+ that is) because for the rest there are LWs.

3) Going HS with him for progression is quite stupid, but could be still done with for example Psionic. And that 18 stamina can be quite helpful as well.
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